I Spit On Your Grave (aka Day of the Woman) he-said-she-said dvd movie review

Hey everyone. We just took a look at the I Spit on Your Grave Millennium DVD and thought we’d try a He-Said, She-Said review in an off-beat “dialogue” format based on our discussion.

EVERY TWO MINUTES, somewhere in America, someone is sexually assaulted. One out of every six American women have been the victims of an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime. A total of 17.7 million women have been victims of these crimes.
(courtesy: rainn.org)

Chris: Although vilified more than any other rape revenge movie in history, I Spit On Your Grave is actually much more thought provoking, realistic, and way more intelligent than most of the other films in its genre — Last House on the Left included. Also, unlike the other films it has a very strong pro-feminist theme throughout the film. What I love about the film is the woman NEVER stops fighting. From the very beginning to the very end, the woman is a warrior. Even during the rapes she never gave up. She bit, scratched, hit, did anything to get away. The only reason they overpowered her was that it was 4 against 1. Even Jackie Chan has trouble with those odds.

Kris: LOL, yes.. even when she was severely beaten, her rational mind was still trying to create an escape.. how she tried to reason with them. Even lacking the physical strength of her foes, she used her sexual appeal to entice and trick them in their own game during her revenge. They were brutally sadistic.. pacing out and waiting for her to resume a false sense of security.

C: True. But they didn’t start out as sadistic. It was sort of like they got a taste of it and became addicted.

K: The audience was meant to believe that they were misogynists though.. that they believed women were sex objects; playthings. Could be sexual frustration from living in a small town.

C: Very true. They had that discussion about women from CA and NY only existing to have sex with everyone.

K: Or that they ALL would have sex with that blonde dude. It was the rift between City and Country, they assumed she was a slut and was ‘loaded’, and in a way, deserved what she got –that she was an intruder to their banality maybe? That they knew she was better than them.

C: Exactly. More intelligent, more attractive, and far more independent. That tends to scare people.

K: Especially back then.. I tried to put myself in that frame of mind.. when women were not allowed certain freedoms but were trying to fight for them in an extremely old-fashioned/fascist society. It must’ve been awkward for men.. demasculinizing. Stanley kept saying that they like their women submissive.

C: “Total submission,” he said..

K: What was humorously ironic what that during the entire rape sequence.. she didn’t ‘act’ like a ‘woman’.. or how a woman was expected to react. But when the tables were turned, the men pleaded and bargained for their lives, whining about how it was the other guys’ idea and they didn’t want to go through with it; that it was someone else’s fault.

C: While she kept fighting, they gave up immediately.

K: I really enjoyed too that the weapon they kept alluding to, the handgun, would have been such an easy kill, instead she wants them to suffer… its the only way for redemption for the things they did to her. They were such pussies LOL

C: As if the gun would be like letting them off with a slap on the wrist.

K: Yesyes.. and then the audience is exposed to a different side of her. That she wasn’t a cold blooded murderer.. she wanted them to suffer for a reason, for a cause.

C: I would say that the film is very empowering film for women, in that sense.

K: These weren’t criminally affected guys though.. They were bums looking for fun in a small town. Which is frightening; the things people do out of boredom.

C: The whole idle hands are the devil’s playground scenario. The other cool aspect of the film was the complete lack of a musical score.

K: Yesyes.. no distracting musak at the pinnacle points. and you noticed the canoe…

C: Her canoe was silent. Propelled by her own paddle, while the guys had an extremely noisy speedboat. So noisy that it actually drowned out her thought voiceover at one point. I found that to be quite effective. She had gone to the country in order to be alone, enjoy the quiet, yet she was being harassed by these hicks that were noisier than the people in the noisy city she had tried to get away from. When you think about it again she represents civilization and they represent savagery.

K: In a way, but that’s not to say that if you lived in an antiquated culture, you would be overrun by immoral ideas. I mean, you didn’t see Johnny beat up his wife or they weren’t vandals or anything. It was this one time, this one strange deviance.

C: The rape was done in the middle of the day, by guys who had jobs, families, overall normal guys. They just were bored. And that makes it so much scarier.

K: Yah.. well, 2 of the guys were just bums. But do you think that her canoe was symbolic of her journey?

C: As in how?

K: Like her canoe represented solace.. it was silent.. where she could enjoy nature.. i mean, she prolly chose that property becos it was next to the lake –judging from her umm, reaction to the lake when she first saw it, lol.

C: That was probably the only cheesecake scene in the film.

K: And when her confidence was stolen, she was dressed in heavy, dark clothing but still seated by the lake, and her empty canoe floated by, perhaps symbolising her freedom? Shortly after that, she regains the courage to take ‘em out. So I think seeing the boat’s return helped her quit self-sympathising. I also thought it was great that the guys ‘gossiped’.. formerly a ‘girlie’ trait.

C: Good point. Once the canoe came back she got her motivation back, so the canoe could represent control of her own life. In the end would you categorize it as a feminist picture?

K: Yah its like ‘rape women and you’ll get your penis sliced’. That’s not exactly ‘pro rape’.

C: LOL. What I still can’t understand is how Ebert could have thought this film made men want to rape women. This was one of the few films that has actually shown the aftermath of rape.

K: Yesyes.. I thought it was very realistic.. there was blood between her legs after the second guy and how they portrayed that rape isn’t about sex, it’s about power. They raped her when she was in an unattractive state –covered in dirt and blood and bruises.

C: They weren’t getting off on the sex, but on having total control over a person.

K: And even though they weren’t the best actors, their facial expressions were pretty on point.. in the beginning they appeared to be remorseful..

C: But you could tell they started to enjoy the power they had over her.

K: Yesyes.. as if they were hoping that becos she was a woman, she would forgive them. That’s why I liked the scene where she had a gun, the easy answer, but she doesn’t use it and you feel as though she is creating another demise in her mind. I liked the anticipation.. the slow pace. It allowed you to be absorbed in the moment.. to empathise with the character’s thoughts.

C: It was a very welcome change from the fast cuts we have to endure today. And she actually goes to the church before she takes revenge. She prays and essentially tells God that this is what she has to do. Please forgive her for whatever happens. LOL

K: She even passes a cemetary lol.. foreshadowing dundunDUNN. And she wasn’t flaunting her stuff on purpose. She was on her own land, her own hammock. That makes it more realistic, since most women are raped by men they know or trusted. But it was incredible how these were just ordinary people. I really liked that.. She wasn’t a professional kickboxer, she was an authour, and these weren’t thugs or serial rapists..

C: And that’s what Ebert was so mad about, which I find funny. If you could avoid rapists, tell who they were and what they were going to do, you wouldn’t have rapes, so of course real rapists look like regular guys.

K: 1 out of every 6 women get raped.

C: The men rape her, beat her, violate her with a bottle, and then make fun of her writing. You NEVER make fun of a writer’s writing, much less tear up their manuscript. That’s unforgivable.

K: It also brought up an important point that men can have sex with multiple partners and still be thought a hero (in the movie, it’s what makes you a ‘MAN’) but when a women has men she ‘makes love to’ (in her manuscript) shes’s a slut and a bitch. More reasons why men CREATE violence against women due to their own shortcomings. Rape isn’t random.

C: True true. Would you recommend this movie?

K: Yes, if the audience can take it for what it’s worth. Keep repeating, ‘this was made in the ‘70s’ so don’t expect to see everyone bust out in aerial acrobatic karate. The only disappointment was that I thought she might shove a broomstick or a beer bottle up their asses tho, LOL.. maybe another movie can show that. I wonder if Ebert didn’t like it becos might think he was a deviant.

C: Well, he did like Last House on the Left…and in that one the girls don’t make it out alive. Maybe he has a problem with women’s empowerment. Overall I would say the film was quite good. Definitely not deserving of all the hate that has been thrown at it. As far as the disc is concerned, the picture is crystal clear. The DTS track has a good mix for the ambient sounds. Birds chirp all around you. Sadly the same can’t be said for the voice mix. The original mix was an overdub, so there’s not much you can do to improve that.

K: But that added to the surreal quality.. along with the lack of soundtrack.. I enjoyed the silence juxtaposed with violent images.. I didn’t feel ‘cheated’ or manipulated into emotion through cheesy musak.

C: True. The Joe Bob Briggs commentary is actually one of the best commentaries I’ve heard in a long, long time.

K: Joe Bob is insightful and hilarious!

C: Would you say this film makes men want to rape women? Did you feel it to be exploitive?

K: Not at all. did you?

C: No. A definite no.

In conclusion, we believe this was a thought provoking film, with a very pro-feminist message. Although the rape and violence can be quite offputting, this is an important film which was unjustly ripped apart by many many critics. The Millennium Edition DVD is the perfect way to see the film. And the insightful Joe Bob Briggs commentary may just change a few previous nay-sayers’ minds.

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  1. This was really interesting. I read all the reviews that said the movie was exploitative and biased against women, but I always felt that the opposite was true. I also agree that it’s strange how Ebert expected people to feel like a deviant for liking this movie. Good job, guys.

    Mike on July 17, 2005
  2. The MPAA sued this film maker for putting R on his product even though they recommended 17 minutes of cuts that he only made to the cinema print release and restored it totally for the video release without telling them so they sued and won.

    This film has no business being in cinema. It sets standards in the industry which means 1,000,000 more films like this can be made.. and pass the test.

    Anyone who has seen it knows that the material is wrong and NOT thought provoking. The director restored the 17 minutes for 1 reason and 1 reason alone - To make it the most exploitive film ever made about women being raped. There is nothing thought provoking about it. Its a rape film.

    growman on July 19, 2005
  3. Growman, I have to disagree. Sure it’s easy to point the finger and say something is exploitive, especially when it’s been said over and over by so-called big critics like Ebert, but it’s another thing to actually see beyond the superficial and interpret it.

    I feel that this was an interesting format with many excellent points made in the review. IMO, if the movie made you upset and angry, that was exactly what it was supposed to do.

    Sam on July 20, 2005
  4. I thought this movie was very discriminating and I turned it off within the first 15 minutes. I then decided to give it another chance and I liked it. Though I would have not made the rape scenes so long. Like I said I liked it OK, but I will only rent it once.

    Grace on July 25, 2005
  5. Could you give some examples of rape scenes that you felt were’nt exploitative Growman? That may give us some idea of where you stand.. While I’m glad that this stirred up your emotions, I disagree with your statement. I felt the film was incredibly thought provoking. Perhaps because it’s so brutal and filmed in an almost documentary style, so you feel helpless because there’s no way you can rescue or warn Jen. Maybe that explains the way you feel about the movie. If it angered you, then it served its purpose. There are too many movies where the woman is raped/kidnapped and winds up falling in love with her captor.

    But she did get closure and justice. Try to recognize her as an extremely courageous woman, with revenge as metaphor for political/legal justice, then you may be able to see the message. Just think about how many women don’t report rape to the police or blame themselves forever.

    Besides, there was nothing sexy at all about the rape scenes. While it’s extreme, it’s a _movie. Movies such as this one are meant to shock us to invigorate our opinions and help us to understand and empathize. Topics often have to be exaggerated in movies because we’ve grown to expect that sensationalism. We’d probably be bored without it. This one just made sure you couldn’t gloss over it. I mean, it’s unforgettable, right?

    Anyway, thanks everyone for posting! :)

    Kris Kobayashi-Nelson on July 26, 2005
  6. This really opened my eyes to the brutality of it. You’re not used to this violence in other movies so it made me sick and angry, but now I understand that it was the point. I feel that her revenge was justified.

    I love the He Said She Said Reviews. Great Site!

    Angie on August 1, 2005
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    dunno on September 13, 2005
  8. I WOULD GET THE TAPE CALL SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE I I WANT TO NO HOW I GET THIS TAPE PLEASE LET ME HOW CAN I GET THIS TAPE SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE WRITE BACK I WANT TO GET THIS TAPE BUT I DONT NO HOW TO GET IT THANK YOU

    ANNIE SMITH on October 25, 2005
  9. please tell me how I can get this movie

    KENNY DAVIS on February 4, 2006
  10. Hey Kenny,

    Welcome to the site. The film’s not going to be at any Hollywood or Blockbuster videos, but you can most likely find it at your local mom and pop video shop. If you don’t have any of those near you, they have it at Borders and most likely Best Buy. Otherwise, there’s always Netflix.

    Chris Nelson on February 5, 2006
  11. Hi, I’m doing a Cult Cinema unit for my degree and was just wondering what people thought on whether ‘I spit on Your Grave’ is cult film? And if so why?

    Sarah on March 31, 2006
  12. Oh, most certainly it is. If you look at it on just the base level of video success versus theatrical success you’ll find it fits. Though the theatrical run was cut short, largely because of Siskel and Ebert’s outraged response, the film turned out to be one of the most popular video cassette purchases in the early days of VHS. The film has remained popular in cult circles, and is discussed and debated to this day. If you go to your local record or book store you will most definitely find this film included in the Cult section :)

    Chris Nelson on March 31, 2006
  13. about backside of Camille Keaton only the photogreph is best and her backside was marvelous . thanks

    ali on April 4, 2006
  14. all mine all mine

    BillGates on June 9, 2006
  15. Camille Keaton’s backside? That’s not her in the poster though, Mr. Bill Gates :)

    Chris Nelson on June 9, 2006
  16. This is one of my favorite reviews from your site, guys. The dialogue format is especially apt, cuz when it comes to this movie there’s little beyond “Oh it’s exploitative trash.” A much more interesting film than given credit for.

    Fernando on June 11, 2006
  17. Oh yeah, and Roger Ebert should know by now where to stick that thumb.

    Fernando on June 11, 2006
  18. Folder on June 14, 2006
  19. Camille Keaton is hot. Make me so hot! Make me so hot!!!

    Bob on July 12, 2006
  20. MAKE ME SO HOT! MAKE ME SO HOT!

    Bob on July 25, 2006
  21. A light purse makes a heavy heart.

    Jesse on October 30, 2006
  22. Interesting read… to be honest, I did not like this movie when I first saw it, but then again, I was only 14 years old.

    I am a collector of horror, cult and exploitation films, and I remember upon this initial release to laser disc in 1998, my significant other at the time marked it on the pre-order of lists believeing this was a film I would want in my collection. When I explained what kind fo film it was, or at least my memory of it and that I had no desire to own it, it was removed immediately from the pre-order forms of Ken Crane Laserdiscs (now defiunct).

    Well, finding out Cammele Keaton had also done Italian films early on in her carreer, I became curious of what else she had done, google searched, and ran across this review/discussion, which actually threw this film in a differnt light for me. In fact, it reminded me of when I first saw One Flew Over The Cukoo’s Nest at age 6, how I couldn’t stand it and squirmed in my theatre seat, yet when i was 14 and saw it again, i thought it was fabtastic, and even better when i saw again at 19, it becoming one of my favorite all time movies and Jack Nicholson one of my favorite actors to this day, that I realized perhaps I was too young to really understand I Spit On Your Grave beyond the exploitation elements that everyone focusus on and perhaps should give it another chance in a differnt light.

    Am I gonna run out and purchase it now? Probally not, there are so many movies on the market right now I want that I never seem to have the extra cash to pick up that I’m not about to shell out $15 or $20 just to see if my opinion has changed 23 years later based on this discussion, but perhaps it will come on late night cable, or even the Independent Film Channel (Hey! you’d be surprised some of the oldies they show occasionally on IFC) and will certainly keep my out for it for a second viewing, keeping in mind all the symbolism and points made in this review!

    Thanks Chris & Kris

    H. Amador on May 7, 2007
  23. Hey, H.

    I’d say I Spit is worth a second look, though I can understand your hesitancy to rush out and watch it again. Still, I think compared to Last House on the Left it’s a much more hopeful and empowering film (the girls in Last House don’t even get a chance to fight back). Not something you would plop in the player for fun, but still a far better film than it’s given credit for :)

    Thanks for checking us out, and for posting an intelligent comment! :D

    Chris Nelson on May 8, 2007

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